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 Post subject: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:00 pm 
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I just visited the owner of these:

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And to make our envy even worse, he owns two more. These are four of the actual, serial number-noted Savage .45 pistols used in the 1907 field trials.


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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:16 pm 
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Oh, the things I could do to those :shock:

Don't leave something like that laying around in our shop!

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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:09 pm 
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At $18,000 each, they never left my sight.


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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:24 pm 
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Wow. Something most people don't see every day...or lifetime.
And he has twice that many?

Tell us more about those four. I don't know what else there might be to tell, but for starters: How did he come across them?

I have always read that the Savage .45's Searle-designed locking system gave a sharper recoil feel than the Browning/Colt. I bought a Savage M1907 "pocket" auto last winter, which I understand uses the same (or very similar) locking system as the .45.
I didn't know a .32 could have so much recoil.
I know it can't really recoil any more than another gun of the same caliber and weight, but it sure feels like it. No, it wasn't brutal, but more than I expected from a .32ACP. Whether it's the locking system, the grip angle, or my imagination, it felt like a 9mm being fired in a gun that size. So if the Savage .45 is anything like that, I can believe what I've read about it's recoil.
I'd sure like to find out for myself, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:32 pm 
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The owner is amenable to a second visit and test-firing session.

He used to own a fifth one. Sold it. When I asked, he said "Yes, I wish I hadn't done that."

The day before, I had visited the owner of one of the Colt 1907 field trials guns. A good drive, that was.


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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:06 pm 
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The are locked breach....?


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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:37 pm 
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Rotating barrel, just like the little .32s and .380s.

The owner says they don't kick any worse than a 1911. I'm skeptical (hence the return to test-fire) because I've fired rotating-barrel pistols, and they all kick harder than they should.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:10 pm 
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I've only let one person shoot my Savage M1907 32 ACP so far. It was "some guy" at the range who I had seen before but didn't really know well. I didn't tell him what caliber it was, as I presumed he would know it was either .32 or .380.
His comment: "What caliber is this, a .40?"


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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:02 am 
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Man, where does one get the means, and connections to aquire such mythical devices? I am very jealous, especially as I could never dream to own an $18,000 gun. I'm lucky to own an $18,000 car :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:59 am 
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Simple: your family has owned a gunshop since before WWII. The things that come in (and came in in the old days) would bug your eyes out.

I once had a guy bring in a Beretta BM-59, (semi, not select) complete with a couple of .50cal ammo cans full of factory mags, and another couple of ammo cans full of surplus ammo. He wanted $400, which I didn't have, as I was in the process of buying a gun shop complete with machine tools as the next step in my progression.

Own a gunshop long enough, and you'll see everything walk through the door at least once.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:03 pm 
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Can I be your driver on these adventures? :D

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 Post subject: Re: Be jealous, I am
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:24 am 
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What horrendously ugly, wonderful pieces of history they are.

It's like finding Eleanor Roosevelt lying around. Well, ... not quite.


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