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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:20 pm 
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I had an opportunity to look at, handle and photograph a few choice items. I'll give you a glance while i work over the files.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:49 pm 
Oh more please! I've never handled a Singer!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:53 am 
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Sir, please please post a full size pic! Of a SINGER!
Since its all most of us will ever get as close to.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:16 am 
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That'd make a nice base gun :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:53 am 
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If I ever score a suitable candidate, Ted, you'll be who I think of.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:58 am 
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The whole gun;


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:21 am 
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Tell 'em the story Patrick!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:51 am 
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RARE. Thank you for sharing a piece of history with us.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:43 am 
Ned Christiansen wrote:
Tell 'em the story Patrick!


C'mmon Patrick. How long you gonna make me wait??????????

You cut your hair, and now this is how you act?

8) 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:48 am 
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A mutual friend of mine and Ned's has a family-owned gun shop in a suburb of a big city. (No point in making it easier to find this gun, eh?)

I mention to this friend that I'm working on the 2nd Edition of my 1911 book, and I'm looking for extras. He casually mentions that he has a couple that might qualify.

We get to the shop, and he produces this, a very nice Singer. And, an absolutely pristine Union Switch & Signal employee gun. US&S apparently made special guns for employee recognition. This one is fired, but just enough to test fire it (target included) in the pasteboard box it came in. The gun was fired and handled so little that the top of the frame, where the slide runs, didn't even have the blueing worn.

Finally, a Colt 1914-dated 1911, which Ned and I had to unfortunately declare a re-blue, but, it had been done with a light touch, long ago, and probably hadn't needed it. As a base gun for a "real, not retro" job, it would be stellar.

And those weren't even the rarest guns we eyeballed that evening.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:58 am 
Patrick Sweeney wrote:
And those weren't even the rarest guns we eyeballed that evening.


Oh you tease!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:59 pm 
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I still feel kinda bad about spilling toilet bowl cleaner on the Singer just as I nicked it while adjusting the fresh belt on the belt sander...... man that's the last time I try to set a multi-tasking record on somebody else's turf.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:13 am 
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At least you didn't spill any of your Mountain Dew on the unfired 13mm Gyrojet Carbine, in its original shipping box.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:52 pm 
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Hey, that's right!

Well, there's always next time......


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:45 pm 
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My apologies for the delay. I've been a bit busy. Here is a an employee gun from Union Switch & Signal, with the test target. These may well have been the only rounds fired through it.


The US&S employee guns were so ham-handedly polished before being given away that many thought them to be bad reblues post-war. that probably saved them from custom gunsmithing in the 1950s and onwards.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:20 pm 
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What are those guns worth? A lgs has one on consignment for $2500.00. It's in really good shape. Comes with box, target and lanyard.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:14 am 
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That story is like the guy I met who said "oh, I have one or two guns" and then shows me a basement full of NIB, and I mean NIB guns his grandfather had taken off the shelves and stuck in the family truck when they left the family store in western Nebraska in 1931. Colt's, Smiths, Winchesters, and more, all NIB< circa 1928-31.

When the bank said they were gonna retake the store, his grandfather loaded the truck in the middle of the night and headed for Minnesota, in his words, "a State with 10,000 lakes will have enough water to drink." When they got here, they expected to have to start selling stuff to survive, but luck was with them and the grandfather found a job on the third day in Minneapolis working as a mechanic in a local newspaper repairing shafts and drives for the presses.

Some of the used guns are just as staggering. a 3 digit Henry. a 4 digit Sharps. another sharps in .45 -110. A Spencer.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:16 am 
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Just as a SWAG, I'd put the Singer in the $50,000+ range (I've heard of at least one going for $166,000).

A regular US&S, in this condition, probably $5000. However, volume matters. US&S regular production; 55,000. Singer: 500. US&S employee guns: less than 100.

Short answer; any of us will have to win the lottery to own these two guns.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:09 pm 
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Ok. Thanks. I'll try to snap some pictures next time I'm there and get the serial #.


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