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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:11 pm 
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Well, while I know this is primarily a pistolsmith site, I thought I'd share a custom wheel gun I had some work done to recently. This project sprang forth from a Freedom Arms Field Grade model 83 in .45 Colt and .454 Cassul with a 4 5/8 inch ported barrel (from the factory). What I have had done, though, now allows me much more flexibility in a great packing gun in which I can shoot the new .500 JRH in a Freedom Arms revolver, as well as the legendary .45 Colt.

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WHY A FREEDOM ARMS AND NOT A CUSTOM BISLEY OR A S&W 500?? Well, I love the look and feel of the Ruger Bisley, but even the great revolver builders will tell you the steel used in Freedom Arms guns is simply stronger than the steel used in Rugers and in the custom 5-shot cylinders they use for their conversions. Additionally, This gun already came with two fitted cylinders. One just needed to be punched out in line-bore with the new barrel, thus it was much more cost effective, and only took three months to get rather than one to two years. As for the 500 S&W, well that is just too big of a gun to be packed comfortably, and I don't like heavy recoiling double action guns for various reasons.

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CALIBER CHOICES I guess I could have just bought a .475 Linebaugh Freedom Arms from the factory, but what is the fun in that?? Jack Huntington, the fine 'smith who built this gun, developed the .500 JRH, which will be sold by Buffalo Bore ammo. It basically fits between the .475 and .500 Linebaughs respectively. Frankly, it is the biggest bullet you can fit in a Freedom Arms. The length fills the cylinder and the rim is as wide as can be and still allow reliable function. It is a true .500 caliber (not .512) bullet and is sort of a short .500 S&W. It will propel a 420 grain bullet at 1400 fps and slightly beyond.
While Freedom Arms also makes a .50 AE, it is not really practical in a single action revolver. It headspaces on the mouth and requiers attention to detail in trimming. Also, you can not roll crimp the .50 AE, so heavy recoil can cause the remaining bullets in the cylinder to jump out a bit, and either bind up the gun or at least cause accuracy problems.
I chose to keep the .45 Colt cylinder as the second caliber, rather than the .454 cylinder, because you can load the .45 Colt to do anything the .454 can do IN A FREEDOM ARMS, and the brass is cheaper. Also, I mostly use large pistol primers, and the .454 uses small rifle primers; basically, a logistical matter.

Caliber comparison. .500 JRH surrounded by a .45 ACP and a .45Colt
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I am real happy for Jack Huntington in that he is seeing his initials headstamped on a case made by Starline Brass; quite an achievment. He also was converting .454 Cassul FA guns to .475 Linebaugh well before FA came out with their factory version. He also is a well rounded gunsmith who does custom conversions on Rugers, Dan Wessons, lever guns and also build Safari style double guns.

.500 JRH headstamped brass and custom dies
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THE DETAILS The barrel is banded for a couple of reasons. Although it is not really needed on most Freedom Arms guns, the band helps to keep the ejector rod housing in place under heavy recoil. I've shot some off of other guns that did not have this band, as the screw just backs out and lets it fly :-? . It also adds a little weight up front, giving it better balance, and basically, I think it looks cool 8) .
The trigger is smoothed out and breaks at about 3.5 to 4 pounds. Could go lighter, but I don't want to be surprised by a 420 grain bullet exceeding 1000 fps :o.
Jack also fitted the grips. They are cocobolo and have a nice matte finish to them. You'll notice no gaps, a slight palm swell on the right side, no flare at the bottom, and a slight round butt; all intentional for ultimate comfort while shooting heavy loads.

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WHAT THE HECK DO YOU NEED THAT FOR???? :roll: The same reason we do most of what we do. It is for a good cause; 'cause I want to :wink: . Actually, I lived in Alaska for three and a half years, and I got exposed to large caliber handguns. I realize a large caliber handgun is not the preffered bear defense measure, but it beats a stick and is convenient enough to carry all day. Also, this is a highly tuned and precisely fitted handgun, and I am sure most of you can appreciate the pride that comes in owning such a piece.
And actually, I'll mostly be shooting moderate loads of 400 grainers or so at 900 to 1000 fps. Soft enough to be fun, but tough enough to take care of any business in the lower 48.

So, thanks for sticking with me on this. I know it was long, but I hope you enjoy this post and appreciate a trip down revolver-ville. Also bear in mind my preferences are just that. I'll post shooting results when I get a chance to hit the range.

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Lenny Cianciotto

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:01 pm 
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Simply put- Very nice.
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Nice MACHO stuffs! :twisted: :twisted: :x :D
Lenny, how do you change the barrels?
Also is the lack of adjustable sights a problem?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:45 am 
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Chuck,
At the moment, I have to use a vice and action wrench. Witness marks on the frame and two barrels ensure consistency. While there are ways to make a barrel swap system that is quicker to change out, we discussed them and decided to stick with this method for now, since barrel swapping will mostly be a nice option to have, but one I'll not use often. I will mostly stick with the 500 caliber round. If I see I want to swap the caliber more often, we'll probably add a quick-change feature, but I'll shoot it a while first.

The sights are adjustable (not click style) for windage and elevation and there is enough adjustment to cover both calibers. Additionally the front and rear sights can be replaced, if needed, via screws. Feedom Arms markets several shapes and sizes.

Will shoot it this weekend, and if I don't end up with a permanent implant of the front sight in my forehead :oops: , I'll post results.

Always good hearing from you Chuck :D

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Man, Lenny, there's something about a big, heavy bullet that gets me all worked up. I have a 10" FA .454 that I shoot very little. I simply love the FA revolvers. As nice as they are from the factory, none can touch yours. I bet you're about as proud as a new dad with that one. Shoot well, and try to come back to a 1911 every once in a while just to remain humble.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:29 am 
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Well, a little work at the reloading bench and at the range yielded some iteresting results :D

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I'll work up on velocity, but this is pretty good for a .50 caliber bullet at a little over 900 fps. Not sure what happened to the fifth bullet at the bottom, but the chrony showed a 950 fps on that one, so I'll try to be more consistent in my loading procedures. Sure it was me and not the gun :?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:02 am 
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Lenny,

What a fine FA 83. The base revolver is an outstanding choice, representing a enviable level of production quality (as you obviously are well aware). With the nicely executed custom work, the piece becomes an extra special and formidable combination of beauty and huge ballistic power.

Thanks for sharing the joy.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:33 am 
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Lenny,
Very nice gun. Sounds like you had a lot of fun with this project. Thanks for the great pictures and post.

Tom


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:18 am 
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A definite beauty! Thanks for sharing.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:28 am 
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Thanks for the comments. Lots of fun indeed. The 500 is so versatile, I've given up on switching back and forth to the .45 Colt cylinder and barrel. I've traded them to the gunsmith (Jack) for work on a Colt New Frontier in .45 Colt. He will have use for them, I am sure.

Winter is puting a cramp on shooting at the time, but I've gotten a 420 grainer up to 1,300 fps. That is not its limits, but it is about mine :shock: .
Denting steel plates at 50 yards consistently. Fun, Fun, Fun :!: :!: :!:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:40 am 
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Lenny,
I think trading the .45 cal cylinder and barrel are a smart move. I would think that switching back and forth would be a pain. Since it is not someting you would want to do often I would have anouther gun built if you want a .45 cal gun.

I would tend to agree with your thoughts that the .50 will do pretty much everything you want.

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nice! yes i too look at the 45 parts as "left overs"50 all the way :twisted:


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