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 Post subject: New Alessi IWB-The PCH!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:11 am 
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There are some very talented holster makers to choose from these days. However, there was a time when our choices weren't as plentiful. Craftsmen like Bulman, Brommeland, and Del Fatti are creating some beautiful work. Before this crop of relatively "new guys" Professionals from law enforcement, the military, and civilians, called on Lou Alessi. Lou has been making holsters longer than some people on LTW have been alive. His current models of holsters inlcuding the CQC-S, the ACP, the DOJ can suit almost any need anyone would have who carries a gun.

When years of experience collide with some late nights and Lou wanting to create his latest version of an inside the waistband holster (IWB) he hit one out of the park. In a conversation months ago with Lou and then Jason Burton they were clamoring about a "new" Alessi rig. Well, once Jason got done with it, I was able to pry it from his hands for a test ride. IWB's are not my first choice but they have their place in certain situations.

Recently I talked to Lou and told him how much I liked this new design. Apparently I am not alone. Lou has since sent out numerous copies to his LE, and military customers all with the same reaction...SPECTACULAR!

I immediately noticed that this holster makes the gun ride close to you and allows concealment of a 5" gun very easy. The cant allows for an easy draw. It actually feels to me that the gun is slightly buried in my waistband, but it is more the superior design. Lou is not a fan of IWB's so when he started to design this one it was for the purpose of enhancing the setbacks of IWB hoslters. Riding in a vehicle was pleasent due to the sweat shield and how this one rode in my pants at about 4:00 o'clock.

The split loop design allows you to capture a belt loop and position the holster and gun to a place that best suits the shooter. As you tighten your belt you can feel this one come in close to you. Lou spread the area of the holster a bit wider which makes it comfortable and secure. The gun I carry which is pictured below, fastened itself in the holster like it was molded for the gun. In short, this is the best design I have seen for a IWB holster. The heavy duty stiching makes every Alessi holster hold up for years. I recently saw a holster Lou made in the early 80's and it worked like a nicely broken in rig. Enough with the banter, enjoy the pictures. Hopefully our new AH author will chime in with his thoughts. Before too long, I hope to see one for my Commander, that will make the world right.......at least for me. 8) By the way, Lou calls this one the PCH for Professional Carry Holster.

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The detailed hand boning makes the gun ride securely in the holster. Beautiful work Lou.
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Couple with a newly acquired Alessi belt this makes for great carry gear.
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Absolutely outstanding!!!!

Uncle Lou's (very practical) art rides on my belt daily. I can see that I'll have to get on the list for one of these!!!

Thanks for sharing Jason & Steve.

Thanks for creating, Lou!

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Neat! I like it!
Sort of a trimmed-down Undercover or Sparks EX.


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Okay Lou, now you've done it. I need two of those, one for a 5 inch and one for 4.25 inch, RH, Black, with Shark Skin trim. That is a great holster, excellent design.

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hey thanks for the pictures steve, i ordered this thing sight unseen after talking to steve bout it! can't wait to get it.
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I should have added this as well. I don't know how Lou does this but this holster feels thin. The actual area where the gun slides into the holster is very evenly distributed front to back meaning what is against your hip vs. the inside of your pants. That didn't come out exactly right, but I'll try to snap a photo.

I like this one more and more each day I wear it.

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Lou sent me one of these holster a couple of weeks ago and I've been wearing it everday. It is with out question the best IWB holster I have ever worn. It's light, it's thn, holds the gun very close to the body, and VERY comfortable. Typical Lou quality. I would defianty recommend this holster to any one who would want an IWB to get this one.

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Let me add a bit to what my pal Bailey has already commented on...

I had the pleasure of putting this holster through some testing and real use for about two months or so. I’m a disciple of IWB holsters and someone who actually wears one all day, every day with a 5” 1911. Lou and I have discussed the merits of IWB holsters on and off for the last 12 months or better and when Lou offered to send me this prototype I jumped at the chance. During our conversations about the rig, Lou had described to me a truly new design that didn’t require a reinforced mouth band in order to keep the holster open once the gun was withdrawn. I think Lou’s words were something to the effect of “the holster, mechanically, cannot collapse”. Being a certified holster junkie I’m always excited to see new gun leather... especially when it’s from Uncle Lou. When the holster arrived I gave it a good look over and soaked up the details. As with anything Lou sews, the quality of the rig is top notch and is built to last but this holster is really something different and off the beaten path of what’s currently available from other makers.

One of the things I immediately liked about the holster was the split belt-loops. This feature has always been a plus in my book and it has become something that I can hardly live without for obvious reasons. During the course of wearing the holster I found that I had no wardrobe considerations in the pants department... it works with every pair I own. Positioning was easy as was securing and removing the rig. Pretty obvious stuff here but it's something that is often taken for granted and well worth pointing out.

Another important aspect of an IWB, and something few users take into consideration, is the ride height of the rig. The ride height on this holster is, IMO, more than adequate for most users and basically mimics the ride height of one of my favorite IWBs, the Sparks Summer Special. While one could easily make due with it being slightly lower, the ride height facilitated plenty of clearance between the belt line and the butt of the gun and I never had any problems grabbing the gun that were due to lack of clearance. Again I think this is something most users, and especially casual gun wearers, don’t think much about. But IMO, due to the way an IWB holster and gun is bound to the body by the belt, a slightly higher ride helps to facilitate an easier draw stroke.

Lou’s new rig is also very stable. Many people feel that split loops placed directly over the body of the holster is a design that is antiquated and no longer a viable when compared to designs that place the loops for and aft of the holster body. I couldn’t disagree more and anyone who thinks a split loop design can’t be stable only need to give this new rig a try. One will notice that the hefty belt loops are precisely fit to the width of Lou’s belts and I found that aided in keeping the rig in place under even the most strenuous movement. Grounded drills, drawing the gun while seated, drawing on the move, and any other combination you can think of were in no way hampered by the rig shifting... 'cause the rig don't move! :wink:

Undoubtedly the most interesting design aspect of this rig is the way Lou got rid of the reinforced mouth band but still insured the rig would not collapse. In this day and age of sloppy, floppy, soft, collapsible nylon holsters it has become clear to me that many pistol packers either don’t realize or don’t care about the rig staying open once the gun is withdrawn. I consider it to be of paramount importance not only because it makes holstering the gun easier while standing (especially if you’ve only got one hand available :wink: ) but it makes holstering the gun possible while sitting in a car or chair or while lying on the ground. However, I think the most over looked aspect is how a holster that stays open will help a shooter in the even that they have to run the pistol one handed (such as clearing malfunctions or reloading the pistol) with either ones strong side or support side hand. Both of those operations are made easier when one has a stable platform to reciprocate the gun on and place the gun in when performing these vital skills. Try inserting a pistol into a collapsed holster using only your support side hand during an empty load or while performing a malfunction clearance :shock: :shock: and one will quickly realize the importance of a holster that won’t collapse.

With his new design, Lou “bunches” the leather at the front of the holster during the molding process to create a sort of “compound arc” that will not flatter under tension or pressure. The fold at the front of the holster aids the rig to stay open as it is pushed away from ones body by the hip. It seems the natural action of pushing the fold outwards as one wears the rig forces the back of the holster to stiffen a bit and that creates tension that helps the arc hold its form and thus keeps the mouth of the holster open. Additionally, the bunching of the leather that keeps the holster open also forms a sight track so there is no need for the traditional stitched sight tracks.

This all may sound complicated but it’s really not. “Bunching” the leather to create an “arc” at the front of this one-piece holster body and molding the rig to perfection has done away with the need for a mouth band reinforcement and it’s a very trick design. I have to give Lou credit for coming up with something truly innovative here. Although I tried I could not get the holster to collapse once the gun was drawn... and I really tried too. :) I rolled around on the ground with the holster empty, I laid on it, I pushed on it, I did just about everything except pound on it with a hammer and not once did the rig collapse.

One last aspect of this rig, which will no doubt be important to those who want or need the most concealment available, is how tightly the holstered pistol hugs ones side. I have worn just about every style of IWB holster available and I have never worn a rig that tucked the gun butt into my side better than this new offering from Lou. Once the holster is on and the belt cinched tight, the holster sort of “tilts” the butt of the gun towards the user and makes a full size 1911 disappear underneath a tee shirt. I found this to be a far more concealable rig than even the Sparks VM-2, a holster that many consider the pinnacle of IWB concealment, and when worn with a O-ACP sized gun ones pistol is virtually undetectable.

You got a good one here Lou!!! :D :D


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:56 pm 
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Steve, Thanks a million for those great pictures.
Jason, You are in the wrong business. Wordsmithing should be your foremost occupation! I can't thank you enough for that wonderful review.

Thanks to all you gentlemen for those kind words! You humble me.. but I ain't gonna let on to my wife. :wink:

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I have a hard time believing it is better then the Alessi GWH, but I may be able to be coaxed into trying it.

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Believe it Anthony, take a leap of faith, forget what you think you know and just give it a try......you will be hooked. Kind of like the Matrix, you have to choose the blue pill or the red pill. Just got one for a Commander and I am thrilled.

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Yah take the leap of faith, i bought one of these sight unseen but now i got to see steves and that sealed the deal, unbelievably comfortable and concealable!
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OK! If I find one I will buy it!
I really did the split loop...not so sure about the big fin on the front of the holster, but hey, I will take the blue pill here! Kinda like the "little blue pill?"

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I have a hard time believing it is better then the Alessi GWH, but I may be able to be coaxed into trying it.
I too am fond of the GWH, as the S/S holster body seems to work best for me. But IMO the one major downfall of the GWH, which also happens to be its biggest asset, is the solid belt loop. Now don’t get me wrong, so long as one doesn’t have to straddle a belt loop the GWH will perform marvelously and the holster’s solid belt loop aids a good bit to concealment. However, I have found that on many of my pants the belt loops are simply not conducive to positioning the GWH in the proper position for my comfort and concealment needs. There are often times when the holster is set either too far back or too far forward and thus a holster with split belt loops (such as the one you see here or the venerable S/S) is required. For many users I suspect the solid loop on the GWH has never and will never contribute to positioning problems but for me the rig cannot be used with certain pants. I figure it has more to do with my waste size, build, and preferred position of the holster than anything else and I have even gone to such lengths as to have a tailor reposition belt loops on some of my pants. However there are instances when even that is not an option.

These are just some of the things Lou and I have discussed at length while bantering back and forth about IWB holsters in general and my likes and dislikes. I imagine that Lou bared all that in mind when he sent me the holster seen above for testing and they are things I try to keep in mind when using or evaluating my gear. No doubt about it the GWH is a fantastic design that performs very well but for some users it doesn’t cover all the bases. Lou’s PCH IWB adds a new dimension to the IWB while also allowing for unfettered use. :)


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Would Steve or Ted or Lou or somebody please bring this prototype to the SHOT show?


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There will be a few PCH holsters at Shot. I wore my Commander sized PCH for the last couple of days and it is all that the full size version was. I need to break it in a little more, but very comfortable. Thanks Lou.

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Well after all the hoopla surrounding this holster and knowing that Lou needs another holster to build I ordered one last week for my Sig 220R. As with most things Lou builds I'll wait patiently and then voila it will show up and I'll have that little bit of happiness that goes with getting a new holster from New York....

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Great review Steve. I have mine on order already!


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None of you will be disappointed with this one. I have put the Commander sized version through it's paces and again, just like the Gov't size.....da best.

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Looks good Lou; I remember you mentioned this in our last telephone conversation. I am working on getting to Shot Show and will enjoy giving this one a try. I love the holster that you sent to me not so long ago and I haven’t lost my Aviator so far. This is a record for me :)

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I tried my buddy's PCH tonight for a full size 1911. I didn't want to give it back. I already PM Lou begging him for one. This holster is unbelievable.

I gotta have it !


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I just received a PCH for my Kahr TP9 (basically, a polymer P9 sized-frame with the 4" slide/barrel of a T9).

This is, without a doubt, the finest IWB holster I've tried, and I've tried more than my share. It's thin as all get out, and the forward "wing" makes it sit just right. I suspect I'll end up with these for pretty much everything I own, but I'll give it a few months of daily wear to see how it goes.

Right now, though, I have to say that Lou has a serious winner with this one!

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Steve,

Let lou know he needs a fat guy test dummy and since I'm such a nice guy I would be more than happy to test one of his prototypes.

Your more than willing guinea pig.

Gary


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Steve, Lou,

Can the belt loops be interchanged for different size or color loops?

Any chance of a Tuckable style PCH coming out in the near future. My daily business attire demands a tuckable holster for a 1911 when worn with button-down shirts.

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Alan, Yes, the loops can be interchanged for different width belts.
I don't have anything in the way of a tuckable on the drawing board at this time. I do have a couple of ideas that I am tossing around in my head, but nothing that is ready for prototype yet.

I guess it's because I still can't get too excited about tuckable holsters. One of the problems I see is that if the holster is worn strong side, like 3 or 4 o'clock, it requires two hands to get the gun out quickly. I think a tuckable holster would be great in the appendix position because the access would be much quicker, but that would put limits the size of the gun you could carry.

Another problem I have is that I've had many of my local customers who bought tuckable holsters, and every one of them complains that the gun prints through their shirts with normal movement. They conceal fine when standing perfectly still with arms at the side of the body, but any reaching, bending, etc., allows the butt of a 1911, or Glock to scream gun!

I think to make this concept work, the gun needs to be as low as possible in the pants, and the holster needs to be extremely thin. No reinforcing band. I don't see a viable reason to be concerned about re-holstering when wearing this type of deep concealment rig. That concept might be a hard sell to the people who think that re-holstering is mandantory in any application. The gun shop commando crowd :lol:

I have a couple of ideas in mind, but still have some technical details to sort out.
Thanks for asking!
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very well put lou. i couldnt agree more on the subject of tuckable holsters.

when the most obvious fix to a problem like this is a smaller gun all together like a kahr or jframe.. at least thats what i think


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Curtis,, I agree. While we would all like to be armed with the heaviest caliber weapon we can carry, in reality, it just doesn't work sometimes.
I carry a lightweight S&W Centennial in a front pocket holster most of the summer. As a civilian, I don't feel under gunned. In certain circumstances when I feel I need something with more punch, I carry a lightweight Commander, or Officers ACP, but I dress around the gun.
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yeah, same here. i have a model 642 jframe. (as you know) :)

the only problem with pocket carry for me is most of my pants styles. you can usually see the butt of the gun the way my pockets are cut.

iwb with the jframe in apx posistion usually goes good for me.


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Lou is dead-on right regarding tuckables (of course). To add my own 2 cents and observations, the biggest problem with them as I see it is there is always a tell-tale bulge distinguishable in the belt, where the belt bellows around the holster instead of laying flat around the entire waistband. Even if the gun is flat and doesn't print, that distortion in the belt is usually evident. I do make one with an adjustable cant, with the belt attachment flap off-set to the rear of the holster body so it doesn't sit on top of the pistol like some versions. I recommend it for appendix carry with compact autos, and I think just about every one I have made has been for a Kahr, a PPK, or some other .380. In other words, the same pistol that would conceal better and be more quickly accessible in a front pocket holster.

Curiously enough, I would like to take credit for this style holster despite it's seeeming drawbacks. (Seemed like a good idea at the time). I had a prototype version of my design in the hands of someone in the gun industry for field testing and evaluation when about a month later another holster-maker released what is deemed to be the first version of this type of holster. Coincidence?? Did I learn anything???

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