Ned Christiansen wrote:
I should think so BBBBBill. Any time you want to relate some experiences that might be educational, we're all ears. For now I'll just ask the one question, was Mk262 hard to get for anyone who wasn't a DM? The Ranger in the family, I'm not sure he would know what Mk262 was but he sure gives the new M855A1 good marks after three or four trips. It gets a lot of bad ink but in my own testing and, now, several times testing it in FBI protocol testing, it ain't terrible. Darn sight better than green tips in every application, but when they debuted it as "match accurate" and everyone knew that wasn't gonna pan out, everyone was right.
My job was not Infantry or SF, rather a Civil Affairs team chief (the softer side of SOF
). We lived with the Afghans when not running ops with Army Infantry, Marines (22nd MEU and 3-6), or SF. Intially we were in Ghazni and began building Fob Ghanzni from the ground up around an old madrasa. We later moved down to Oruzgun Province. Our team house in Oruzgun was a compound on the north side of Tarin Khowt, then controlled by the governor of Oruzgun Province, Jan Mohammed, whom we dealt with almost daily when there. He was corrupt and playing both sides. We had Toyota Hilux pickups and a Range Rover instead of Hummers. Also a team of 9 Afghans, whom I paid with OP fund money, that served as my own PSD. I only trusted the terp and driver as I got them from a 3rd Group ODA that was rotating out who vouched for them. The others were loyal only because of the money, which was far more than they could make from any other source. We covered the area from half way to Kandahar (to the south) to the eastern part of Farah, northern part of Helmand, all of Oruzgun with lots of attention focused on Deh Rawood, all of Daikundi Province, northwestern Zabul Privince, and the weastern/southern half of Ghazni. There was some overlap/mutual support with other teams, but mostly on our own.
The Marines 22nd MEU had FOB Ripley a klick south of Tarin Khowt. 22 MEU was commanded by then COL Frank McKenzie, now the 4 star in command of CENTCOM and a great Marine warrior. I had more fun with the 22nd MEU than anyone else we worked with.
Enough background. I'm getting nostalgic and missing the old days.
So no particular expertise. Just a few engagements and observations. We drew our ammo from SF at Camp Vance in Baghram. To those guys ABL means "another bullet launched" instead of ammunition basic load, so when we showed up it was "How much do you want?", " Need some of this?", and "Here. Try some of this." I had not even heard of the Mk 262 round at that point. Just kind of fell into it by luck. At the time the US footprint in the 'Stan was relatively small, but logistics support was fairly robust, at least for SOF. So plenty of ammo to go around. No issues there. The ammo functioned and zeroed just fine. In the firefights it did the job when called on. From non scientific observations it seemed to put the bad guys down with more authority than the standard M 855 green tip that others were carrying. That was also the observation/opinion of the SF guys I talked to.
I currently favor M-193 equivalent for general tactical range and plinking. I'm curious about the Mk 318 round. No experience with it so far, but from what I have read about the accuracy, I would do better to stick with a Mk 262 equivalent load.