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 Post subject: Custom 38 Super?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:53 pm 
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Anyone still a fan of the 38 Super? Any pix or suggestions?

Or, should I just stick with 10mm as an alternate cartridge to 45?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:01 pm 
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I'm a big fan. Carry a Baer Custom Carry 38Super or Kimber ProCarry HD 38Super. I do because I find them easier on me due to my arthritis but I also find I shoot them more accurately than a .45.
There are some great defense loads out there, moreso than ever before. My favorite is Georgia Arms Shear Power Plus 147gr GoldDot @ 1200fps.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:25 pm 
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I'm in the middle of a build right now for two. LW's from the fifties, getting the whole treatment, including ivories with antique silver medallions.

I'll post some pics if I ever get them done :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:31 pm 
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Hoser,

I'm a big 38 Super fan, but I sold the two I had and the Colt S70 slide I had a few months ago. I have most of the parts for a super build, but I think it's going to be a LONG time before I take on another project. Every one I have ever shot was accurate and very light recoiling... just plain fun to shoot. But, Hoser, I would take a 10mm over a super any day. Why? Well, it can do anything the super can and much, much more. A "light" 10mm will perform like a super, and a hot one will do anything you need it to within reason. So, I guess if it were me, I'd have to decide if it's both economically reasonable and something I wanted to take on time-wise.

Everyone note Al's favorite load: "Shear" power plus? C'mon, Al, I'd have a favorite load, too, if it was named after me.

~Jim Keeney

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:41 pm 
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Must be the weather - I've got a couple as well. One a full house stainless enhanced that's getting mag well, golf ball treatment et.al.. Another that's mostly sights, Kart barrel and a couple of other details. I like the caliber, but haven't ever had one of my own. :(

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:54 pm 
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A super is great and dandy as long as it runs with 9x23..that makes it whole different animal. That isn't so tough to accomplish-its all in the chamber/extractor dimensions and the springs..

Super ammo is not too expensive ($8 a box) but 9x23 carry ammo is $22 for 50.

It sure is neat to shoot 9x23 in a LtWt commander and watch the chrono register 1500! whew!

Magazines are the weak link in 9x23. I have found that the ISMI Tripp mag spring slides right into a Wilson 10rd .38 super mag. It makes it a 9rd mag, but gives it plenty of oomph for the brisk 9x23 slide velocity.

This is a neat cartridge in the 1911 platform with less recoil and flip than a 230gr .45 acp. Much less.

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 Post subject: re: custom 38 super
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:07 pm 
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Mr. Yost worked a .38 super commander over for me about 18 months ago. I had him do it in retro style.......S&W K frame sights, french border on slide, ivories etc. He may still have some pics of it somewhere in his shop. Maybe we can convince him to post them?

I used that Super to take a few gators, saved a couple of skins for myself, had them dyed and tanned and sent one to Mr Alessi to make me a couple of holsters........should be getting the holsters soon!

When the holsters arrive I'll try to shoot a few pics, I'll post them if I can figure out how.


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 Post subject: Supers
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:18 pm 
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I am very fond of Supers. Pleasant to shoot, accurate, and not everyone has one!

Wilson CQB (Thanks Al !!) Enhanced Government, 65 Government. Next to 10 mm its my favorite.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:44 pm 
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Personally, I love shooting the .38 super.

Flat trajectory, very accurate (when headspaced off the mouth and not the rim), quick cycling, reliable in the 1911 platform, low recoil.

As a matter of fact, it is probably my favorite caliber. Maybe that is why I have a collection of some unique pre-war Colts in this caliber.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:20 pm 
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But.... .38 Super is smaller than .45, ain't it? :twisted:

Just kiddin'. I whooped myslef up a nice .38 Super compensated gun for the '88 Steel Challenge. I was not up to speed yet on handloading and didn't have time before the match so I tuned everything to factory 130 FMJ. Now, at the Steel Challenge there's no power floor (or at lest in '88 there wasn't), so the poads are/were incredibly light. You aren't knocking the plates over just hitting them. Some guys have even cooked up straight-blowback .38 Supers to work with the powder puff loads. So, I got the same comment from at least two RO's: "You have the loudest gun here, Bub".

That gun saw me through several seasons of steel matches, IPSC, and the Nine Pin event at Second Chance. Much of the time I used a gas-checked cast bullet out of a mold made by me, that threw a rather pointy 155 grain bullet. I never got into making major with the 115's, although I did use the for some of the lighter loads. My favorite light load though was to just by UMC .38 Auto, not Super, but .38 Auto. These were the same 130 FMJ but at about 900, super mild out of that gun. I won a gun or two or three with it at Second Chance. BTW I routinely used that .38 Auto brass for loading to major. One day I took a case, I forget what brand it was but conventional wisdom was that it was the worst for loading super to major, and I loaded it to major, fired it, reloaded it, fired it, repeat 12 times. I just never had a problem with blown cases, but like I say I never used the lighter bulets, either, always 150 grains minimum.

This was one of the few personal guns that I let go. It was a way for me to take over a new .45 pin gun I was building for a guy, and I really needed a new pin gun at the time. We traded, but I know where it is and I'll have it back some day!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:42 am 
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My current "dream" gun would be a Commander size Super on Caspian frame and slide. But, alas, with son starting four (or more) years of college, that won't become a reality anytine soon. I plan to retire (again) at 62, maybe another retirement gun? Hmmmmm....
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Everyone note Al's favorite load: "Shear" power plus? C'mon, Al, I'd have a favorite load, too, if it was named after me.

~Jim Keeney
Jim - If you and Dave resurrect the .357 SIG 1911 project, maybe we could concoct a load for that and call it "Keeney-in-a-bottle" neck. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:02 pm 
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(*Spoken in my best Ahhhnuld voice)

Cheep, I uhm mahch too mahseef to feet in a puny buddle. My bulging bicupps woot destroy anyting dat trite to contain me.

Man, I had that 357Sig barrel in my hands the other day with the intentions of dropping it into my commander and trying it out again. Who knows... maybe Dave and I will figure it out someday and get it to work 100% relaibly without any major issues. It has been reliable, but the bullet setback thing kinda has me a bit concerned. :cry: I think I might just leave well enough alone this time and stick with the 10mm. Waddayathink, Ted? 10mm commanders sound cool to you?

Chip, I know this guy who would love to build you a 38 Super commander. As a matter of fact, I've shot a few of his before, and they do quite well. Just have to ask a little extra nice for the cosmetic gussyin' up us fellas tend to like around these here parts.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:56 pm 
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Here's my .38 Super Commander that Ted built for me.

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Send me a P/M if you wnat to give it a try. I live in Northern Cal and shoot at many IDPA and USPSA matches. I'll throw it in the car next time I'm heading to the range.

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 Post subject: Yost Commander
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:01 pm 
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Brian, I would like to try it out. Send it to Oklahoma and I will try it out for awhile..........

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 Post subject: Just one thing to say...
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:24 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Yost Commander
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:52 pm 
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Brian, I would like to try it out. Send it to Oklahoma and I will try it out for awhile..........
Sure, I'll get right on that! :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:12 am 
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Brian,
That is beautifull! My compliments sir. I love 38/9mm 1911s now.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:49 am 
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That's a beautiful gun Brian!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:31 pm 
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Nice Commander, Brian. Where do you shoot in NoCal? I'm usually at the Optimist Club in San Leandro (about a 10 minute drive for me).

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:15 pm 
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here is my Commander that started life as a 45..
and I lucked upon a 38 super slide and barrel
and WaaLaa it Works .. and shoots great now
I just need to send it off and get some little things
done too it...

I also have a Government 9mm that has a extra barrel
set up in 9x23/38 supercomp.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:30 pm 
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Thanks everyone for the comments. Ted did a beautiful job and it shoots as good as it looks!


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