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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:39 am 
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Sorry if I ask the obvious. (I searched the forum before asking) I have not yet figured this one out? Some of you guys - help me here. What constitutes a "Full House Custom"?

Is it a certain amount of customization? Is it a certain package from a certain house?

Is a stock gun sent off for say a YoBo - *1 Package or Don Williams - Auto Tactical Package constitute a "Full House Custom"?

Help educate me on this one? Thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:13 am 
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I would suppose the idea of what constitutes a "full house custom" is a very fluid one. It probably means different things to different people.

To me it means that a custom gun was either built from the ground up with selected parts bypassing the need for a "base gun", or so little of the orginial base gun is left that is bares little resemblance to the guns original condition.

For instance I have two "full house guns". I have a Springfiled that was built by EGW. The only things left on that gun that came from the factory are the slide, frame, plunger tube and grip bushings. I consider that to be a full house gun even though it lacks some of the refined touches (that some believe are necessary for the gun to be a true full house custom), like having the rear of the slide serrated, having the slide flat topped and serrated and french borders cut.

The second gun was a gun built by Virigl Tripp from the gound up on a Caspian slide and frame and it has all the bells and whistles, with the exception of french borders.

If forced to chose between the two I don't think I could.

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"Full House" is a fairly vague term, and has come to mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. It's really hard to set a group of "necessary" included mods which would need to be in place before the gun in question could be considered a full house custom. Matters of taste and preference enter into the picture, making the whole thing even more difficult to define. There also comes a point where too much work can be done - mainly in the area of cosmetic embellishment. How many times have you seen a gun that was just "too much"? Kinda like too much makeup on a really pretty girl :lol:

I suppose that as a general rule, a "Full House Custom" should have most, if not all of the following...

It should be a complete effort, not a partial build.
The collaboration between owner and gunsmith should include a thorough reality check in areas of practicality, aesthetics, and even issues like resale potential.
I'll take fire for saying it, but a full house custom is traditionally built by one man, start to finish. One man responsible and accountable, one man rewarded or accursed for his efforts.
It should be a complete realization of the owner's wishes, and the builder's talents
All aspects of function, accuracy, and aesthetics should be addressed, to the highest level attainable.
Both the builder and his customer must be not only satisfied, but proud of the outcome.

Beyond these things, it's important to remember that a custom gun is just that - an individual project made to a set of specifications that place it above the crowd. It doesn't need to be checkered, it doesn't need borders, it doesn't necessarily need a lot of the common features we use on high end guns - unless you want them :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:25 am 
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Definition in my shop:

Full House Custom = Turn me loose. What you get back will be one. 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:12 am 
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Definition in my shop:

Full House Custom = Turn me loose.
Hmmmmmm! I wonder what Tim looks like when Susan takes the chains off :shock:

You are chained to that bench working on a Colt 38Super, aren't you Tim :twisted:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:13 pm 
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Full House Custom = Turn me loose. What you get back will be one.
Dat's da fact, Jack..

I'd have to agree with Mr. Yost's comment:
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...a full house custom is traditionally built by one man, start to finish.


and as for Tim's post, it ain't braggin' if you can do it. :D :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:23 pm 
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Definition in my shop:

Full House Custom = Turn me loose. What you get back will be one. 8)
That is why I'm on Tim's list.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:18 pm 
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I have a rather accurate definition. A gun that was modified to the taste of the owner IS a custom gun. A colt Commander with a match barrel, Dawson front sight,Novak rear sight,Videki trigger is a CUSTOM gun. In anybody's book it IS a custom gun. A glock 34 with aftermarket sights is NOT a custom gun. The same Glock with a grip reduction, match barrel, Bo Mar sights, custom internal components, Extended safety and magazine release is as FULL house custom as it can be. It DOES not come from the factory that way. A Les Baer or Wilson that is at the gunshop is NOT a custom pistol. A SA Customshop model that was build for a specific buyer not for general retail IS a custom gun. I hope this makes a little more clear. Also, a good custom gun does not have to be made buy a big name. The most reliable and very accurate 1911 I have was customized for by a local gunsmith who now became cop.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:22 pm 
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from dictionary.com

Full: Containing all that is normal or possible
Of maximum or highest degree


House: A commercial firm


Custom: Made to order
Specializing in the making or selling of made-to-order goods

Made to order of highest degree from a commercial firm containing all that is normal or possible.

What does that mean? Not a darn thing. Just have it built the way you want it and enjoy it. Whether it is changing the sights or ordering the latest swift response tactical special forces ninja elite predator commando fighter package.

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