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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:20 am 
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Bush, have to get back to you on your questions.

we have a customer in florida, we send a sample slide to him.
he put it in a salt water canal behind his house.
it was on a rope :) and when he pulled it out there was a mud stain but no rust anywhere.

on a side note, I was putting a gun back together on thursday and it happened to be a mimber. turns out the mim does not take color as well as the slide frame and main spring housing.

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George, have you tried anything with polished flats? If so, how does it look?

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We did glass bead and alum oxide.
next batch we will try polish on one side and high polish on the other.

Now I just have to get enough rattle snakes and bats rounded up to mix up the next batch :shock:


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George, please advise if the polished prep works out.

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What about reworking a refinished gun? Is the finish too hard for carbide mills?

Is the finish removable by a process that will not damage the gun steel?


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That is fiction.

Lets take Glock for instance, the finish is clearly tough no one would question that.

We routinely cut Glocks for lo melt bomars. :D

now if you took a carbide endmill and tried to take it down .0001 you would probably burnins the end mill. When were set up we use an Iscar helimill, take a .004 per tooth cut at 1850 rpms and the finish washes away with the steel into the bottom of the machine, no problem.
The only cutter I try to protect is the more frail, very pointy dovetail cutter. Before we cut with it we use a 45 degree carbide endmill to cut away the finish before the actual dovetail cut.

Even hard chrome, thick in either case would probably be .0002-.0004
although tennifer has a heat affected zone much deeper and hard chrome does not.

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definite "tag" to hear/see results of polished version


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Sounds like a good option for my older colt that is in need of a refinish.

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I'm one of the guys who had the first batch of E-Treat on a NRM Colt that George did quite a bit of work to. I also had it applied to a blued RRA Elite Commando. Both of those guns look great and the finish is tough as nails, yet very smooth. The gun draws without grabbing onto the inside of the holsters, as many matte blue guns tend to do. I'm very pleased with the E-Treat. Black T was my favorite finish, but the E-Treat has surpassed it- especially in terms of scratch resistance. I'm not sure about corrosion resistance, as I'm not hard on my guns, but I think it should be very good. George had a guy in Florida hang it off the end of a dock for a while (I thuink that was the story, IIRC) and it wasn't corroded at all. Anyhoo, I have a LB TRS that I'd like to get E-Treated as well.


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so a gun can be etreated as we speak?


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so a gun can be etreated as we speak?
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The following are pictures of my just returned Mil-Spec with the EGW E-Treat finish. All of the work, other than finish, is the work of John Harrison. I am the second owner of this pistol, and both owners sent it to John for work. The work, in my case, was ergonomic as the pistol has always functioned perfectly.

The "BEFORE" pictures show the pistol after the smithing was performed but before the EGW finish was applied. In the "BEFORE" pictures, the upper is parkerized while the lower is "in the white".

The EGW finish is matte, but it feels a bit slick to the touch. For that reason, I am very glad I decided to have the front strap checkered at 20 lpi. The grips are VZ.

The EGW finish was NOT applied to the following parts: all of the small pins, trigger, firing pin, magazine release button, spring plug, hammer, and extractor. Those parts are all blued. The EGW finish was applied to the sights as they are plain black sights with no inserts, tritium or otherwise.

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Very nice tool there, Scott! Very "stealthy lookin'". I am sure you will enjoy this very much! If I am ever able to obtain my dream Hi-Power...I think I have found the finish it will wear! :shock:

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I would like to know also that if this new coat can be used on polished flats. Thanks!


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I would like to know also that if this new coat can be used on polished flats. Thanks!
No. If you want a polished finish E-treat isn't the finish for you. It is a no nonsense flat black finish along the lines of tenifer and melonite.

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We tried again in the last batch
thus far (on experimental slides ) the finish
of polished resembles that of a super light glass bead.
thank you for the interest
geo


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George,

Do you think it would work on Titanium? I have a Titanium Commander receiver (SS01) you checkered which is now just bead blasted and looks/does fine but I like Black.

Thank you for your help.

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Sure wish this could be applied to an alloy frame!


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Mr. Smith,
Now that you've been doing Etreat a while, how have the long term results been?

Thanks
Rich


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The EGW finish sounds extremely interesting! How does it compare to finishes such as Gun Kote products or other baked on type finishes?
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