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 Post subject: New pair for Laura Croft
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:49 pm 
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I am not into video games at all, but 4-5 years ago somebody gave me Tomb Raider, upon which the movies were based. I fiddled around with it a bit and it was not so bad, but always a little frustrating too. I think part of it was that my computer at the time was way too weak to handle it.

For those of you who have seen the Tomb Raider movies and Laura Croft slinging those SIG's with such great effect, but have not seen the video game, well, she really packs a brace of Browning HiPowers, not SIGs, but hey, in this day and age of shameless brand placement in moves, who knows what deal may have been made. Or maybe somebody just thought the SIGs looked cooler, or that's all that was available from the outfit that did the gun wrangling for the movie, or what have you. Anyhow.....

I just finished a pair of BHP's. There are some similarities between the two, but they were for two different customers and are not a matched set. Here's a pic of the two and a few links, details will follow....

(Edit 8/8/24, these pics somehow became defunct, I was able to rehost four of the five. I left the old broken links for reference. The owner of one of these has passed away ("H") and it's my understanding the pistol is now in the collection of Bill Wilson.)

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 Post subject: Sigs or HK's?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:13 pm 
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I thought they were HK's. But it's been a long time and I only saw parts of that movie. But of course the only thing I sorta remember is the large set of "guns" Laura Croft had!

Maybe the video game was different than the movie.

Nice HP's Ned! The only hi cap gun that I love because it fits the hand soooo nicely!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:36 pm 
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....both have Heinie rear sights, the one made for the BHP, but neither is a standard installation. "H" has the rear down-step milled off and the "T" has it and the forward extension milled off. Both guns are Parkerized. "H" has Shallowmyds and "T" has vertical serrations only, both at 20 LPI.
"H" has a gold-inserted front sight. I believe this is a copy of what Ted does..... the customer asked for a vertical strip of gold dovetailed in to the front sight's face. I told him I was not sure how robust that would be and that I might want to solder it in instead...... he was not comfy with that solution. We decided I would just do a round gold insert. Once I got looking for the gold, I found I could obtain what amounts to gold "bar stock" (ah, not to be confused with "gold bars", OK?). This stuff was about the size I needed and according to the source it is 14K. So in the end it is is, after all, soldered into a slot down the face of the front sight. This front sight ("H") is from an MGW blank, due to the need for the dovetail to be a cetain size on account of what had been in there to start with. "H" had no magazine safety but has the firing pin safety. It came to me with a C&S sear, not sure if that's their hammer. "H" also sent me the C&S sear lever which I did not use. This gun was shipped back to "H" with a 3.5 pound trigger and a promise from the customer that he would shoot it for a while as-is, and before carrying it, pop out the sear and bend the sear spring forward to make the trigger at least 4.5. The trigger itself is a stock part modified for take-up, overtravel, and a few other things, with no screws involved. I measure a BHP trigger with the scale's bar centered on the mag release... dunno how other guys do it.

Both guns have the factory ambi safety. For my part that is the best safety made for these things in terms of lever size and shape. I'm not big on ambis personally but both "H" and "T" wanted them. My own BHP has the same thing with the right side lever removed and the shaft shortened accordingly. On both guns, I separated the shaft form the left-side lever..... from the factory the shaft is straight-knurled and pressed into the lever, then swaged over. Pretty secure, but I've been waiting to see one that was loose (for about 20 years, the first one of these I saw was on my own BHP which I bought in '85). "H"'s was loose! So on both guns I took them apart and silver-brazed the shaft to the lever. This makes it good for about the next 1,000 years and has the added advantage of allowing the safeties to be narowed-down. Narrowing them without the take-down and re-solder would tend to make them more lilely to come loose.

Both guns have the slide tightened to the frame, a big contributor to a good trigger I feel, and it was done for this reason much more than for accuracy, although from the factory they are, how you say, loosey-goosey. "T"'s trigger is right around 6 lbs with the magazine safety in place (but this gun is pre-firing pin safety). "T" has standard Browning hammer and sear, and at the customer's direction does not have overtravel or pretravel taken out, which I think detracts from the, um, overall trigger experience of this gun. "T" has a BarSto barrel. "H" actually seems more capable of tight groups with certain ammo (more accurate with 124 Hydra Shocks, and I universally find Federal ammo to be really accurate) with its factory barrel, but the BarSto seems less sensitive to ammo type and groups better with ammo that groups pretty bad with the factory barrel. It's almost a wash, really, depending on what kind of ammo you use and if you're going to use one particular load or anything and everything.

"T" has a .020 drain hole drilled in the bottom of the slide at the front.

Both guns have been high-grip cut in front. "H" has Shallowmyds, and his frontstrap was thick enough to extend them all across the fronstrap.... they're only about .013 deep after all. "T"'s fronstrap was quite a bit thinner at the edges, more typical I think, so the serrations he wanted could not be taken beyond the middle 1/3rd of the frontstrap. I serrated around the serial number on "T", although the serial number was not perfectly centered. Dunno if that really jumps out in the pics. The s/n on "H" was not on the fronstrap, so no prob.

I tried to talk both customers into Conamyds and beavertails, neither one bit. Chickens :lol:! Neither one wanted tritium inserts, either. Dang daytime-only shooters 8) . Also tried to talk both into more elaborate magwells, but criminy, they just weren't havin' it..... never even got to offering the scope mount, detachable shoulder stock, fake suppressor and brief case....... guess these boys ain't no men from UNCLE.


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Ned those lucky bastards.


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VERY nice Ned.

I haven't seen the movie, as the Warden, er, I mean my wife won't let me watch anything that has women or guns in it.....Image

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Ned Christiansen Hi Powers.......now that is cool. Some of the picture links are down but I am looking forward to seeing the rest.

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Blah, blah, blah, outstanding guns, whatever.............WHERE'S LAURA? We want the girl! :D

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Dave, I presume that her image is copyrighted, sorry....

That's par with the links. I have a lot of touble with imagestation keeping them active, not sure what I'm doing wrong...... didn't want to clog the thread with too many pics so I used the links. I'll see if I can fix this.....


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With that title I thought there was a plastic surgeon involved! :twisted:

Great looking guns!!! Very nice work!


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Dude- It ain't you, it's Imagestation. If you wanna see them, log on at Imagestation, then cut and paste the urls. That got me past the "forbidden" screen. Try Photobucket, it seems to give good results.

Your Nedliness,

Your High Power work rocks, just like your 1911 stuff. Keep it up!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:23 am 
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There. links are working for the moment..... posted another pic hosted at IS so I can maybe monitor the status of the links.


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This is the message that I'm still getting:


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You don't have permission to access /picture/sraid143/pcdd8bb2d896c7495fa95e9ea9e2a9dbb/f6a3637f.jpg on this server.



Maybe it's just me that's forbidden? :oops:

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I hope you don’t mind Ned but I fixed the links. After all fellas, guns like these deserve the bandwidth!! :wink:

Amazing work as always Ned… simply amazing!! 8)


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I don't mind at all, and thanks. that's prob'ly what I should have done to start.


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 Post subject: Great looking BHPs!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:19 pm 
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Great looking pistols, and a matched set to boot!

The Lara Croft pistols were HK USP Match (with compensators).

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Thanks, Hyper.... I knew that, I swear I knew that.... I just get all dislexic when talking about German guns whose manufacturers use initials.......


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Ned,

I thought your confusion stemmed from the distaction of thinking about Angelina Jolie's other set of guns. :lol:

Ray

P.S.: I like the High Powers too.

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 Post subject: Lara Croft's pistol set
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:19 am 
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Ned,
I'm just thrilled I could actually contribute to this forum!!!
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I'm on your waiting list, only another 32,760 hours left!!!!! (approximately)

Best Regards,


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Hyper, I just checked your spot and I think you're about right.... geting there slowly but surely!


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