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 Post subject: Ivory Utility
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:33 pm 
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Although I do not know a great deal about ivory I have always like the look of good ivory pistol grips. Does it wear well, is it fragile or can it take the dings of everyday use? Does good grain have any effect on its strength? Finally can it be used on the front sight in place of gold? Does anyone have photos of a blaster dressed in good ivory?
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Ivory can take some wear and tear; however, I would not use it when I expected the grips would take impacts. I have carried a custom Colt with Nutmeg Sports ivories for a few years, and the grips survived. I did take some extra care with the grips, removing them from the pistol once per month and soaking them in mineral oil for about a week to prevent them from crazing and cracking. I had two pair of ivory grips that I would rotate on and off the pistol.

I am not sure that ivory in the front sight would survive the fast slide cycling, but I have not ever heard one way or another.

The stainless gun below was in my carry rotation.

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The blued gun below is my wife's baby, and my favorite blaster.

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subject: Opinion on Ivory grips
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Ivory is one of those "finer things in life" that we treat ourselves to. Like so many of the nicer things, however it requires our attention periodically, and common sense during use and storage.

Worth the extra effort in every way, IMO.
Subject: Mounting ivory grips?
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One very important thing to remember with Ivory stocks is that they are basically decaying teeth. Everybody knows what happens to teeth when they begin to decay... Ivory stocks are no different.

I have Ivory stocks that have lasted over 10,000 rounds of 230gr FMJ and others that have lasted just a bit less. Placing a rubber spacer/bushing of some sort between the stock screw head and the stock panel will help as will not letting the stocks dry out and lastly maintaining the correct amount of tension on the stock from the stock screw (read not letting the stocks shift on the bushings). But on a 1911 if you want them to last forever the only way is not to shoot with them on the gun... and then you never know they still may break.

All that said on a polished blued gun I like Ivory and I have always thought that if I get "X" many rounds out of them or they last "X" many years of carry then they break well I probably got my moneys worth.
I use ivory on my carry gun - it pleases me. I use o-rings under the grip screws but should probably use aquarium tubing for reasons discussed on the above threads.

I don't know who smithed it or even who owns it but Tony Kanaley has posted pictures elsewhere of a 1911 with ivory grip panels that is as pretty as a pistol can be - verges on loving the sword for its sharpness but I can stand that.


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I've carried my Delta Elite Carry-Comp with Nutmeg Sports ivories for
a long time now...no problems yet, but I too take care of mine...
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There is nothing better looking to my eye and nothing more impractical than a set of ivory stocks :)

(I have 3 sets)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:24 am 
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Thanks guys that was interesting!
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I've had the opportunity to whittle on ivory in the mill a little bit-- it seemed to me to be about the consistency of decent plastic, leading me to believe it would be a durable enough material for grips.


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Thanks Ned, The reason I asked in the first place is because I was watching the History Channel and it showed elephants in Africa fighting with their tusks and moving logs in India with their tusks. It occurred to me that maybe it is not so delicate after all, so I thought I would ask people who have actually used it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:18 am 
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Had this set on for 2 years now. The gun is an on/off duty weapon. Pretty hard use. No adverse effects (yet).
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I have used ivory on a couple of different carry guns over the years, but, as much as I like well-figured ivory, I usually end up replacing it with Spegal Cocobolo or rubber. Why? I am not thrilled with the thought of them breaking. Here is the pistola that I carried to an Independence Day BBQ yesterday in Alessi leather. This ivory has the most character of any set of grips I have owned....and I would be heart-broken if they broke.

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I bought these through the COLT custom shop several years ago...told they were 1930's vintage.

The gun is my {2007} Ed Brown Class A Custom, factory engraved - 1 of 9 built.

I rarely carry my guns with Ivory, although I believe it is spectacular...prefer Esmeralda, Wicked, Alumagrips and VZ's for every day use.

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If I didn't live in CA, I'd be carrying this...ivory and all...

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 Post subject: Re: Ivory Utility
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:42 pm 
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Does it wear well, is it fragile or can it take the dings of everyday use?
The ivory grip panels on this Series 70 survived a 4 foot drop, butt first, onto a graveled walkway :shock: However, this particular method of QA/QC testing is not recommended.

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 Post subject: Re: Ivory Utility
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Does it wear well, is it fragile or can it take the dings of everyday use?
The ivory grip panels on this Series 70 survived a 4 foot drop, butt first, onto a graveled walkway :shock: However, this particular method of QA/QC testing is not recommended.

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These Elephant Ivory grips are about 4 years old. The pistol is a Bowling Pin pistol and not carried. It took about 2 years to complete and has had limited use compared to a carry pistol. I keep the grips clean and dry - no treatment. The 1911 has a Caspian barstock receiver and Damascus slide. Rachel Wells did the classic hammer and chisel work. Don Williams did the machine work and Dave and I built it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:41 pm 
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As mentioned above the key to a long-lived set of Ivory stock panels is care and common sense. Proper mounting is essential and given that, as well as a bit of maintenance, Ivory stocks can last a good while and endure the rigors of an active shooter’s/gun-toter’s lifestyle.

I’ve used, carried, and shot quite a few guns with Elephant Ivory stocks and never found them to be a hindrance on a gun that is carried in a concealed format. Will the stocks last forever... probably not, but neither will our teeth. :wink: On a gun that is going to see countless thousands of rounds Ivory stocks are probably not the best choice (ask me how I know) and the current trend of uber-tactical guns need not apply... for those guns there are stocks made out of materials whose names I can’t even pronounce. But if you’ve got a classically styled two-tone, hard chromed, or especially polished blued gun and you’re not afraid of a little maintenance Ivory stocks give that touch of class and sense of pride that is so familiar in custom 1911s. 8)

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