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Okay, what's the opinion on ramped vs standard 10mm barrel? Which do you recommend and why?

A standard barrel has always worked just fine for me. I'm building a couple of Deltas now though with ramped AET barrels, and they're awfully nice too.

So....As the scarecrow said....People do go both ways

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Hi Ted!
Once ramped, however, will it always have to be ramped because of alterations to frame?

Hoser,

I'm no Ted, but I'll try to help. If you cut the frame for a ramped barrel, you will no longer be able to use a standard barrel. I'm sure a good machinist could somehow rebuilt the frame or put in an insert like many do on aluminum frames, but the cost would make it easier to get a new frame... I think.

I have a few 10mm 1911s, and I use both ramped and unramped barrels. Personally I prefer the ramped just for the added support, but I have no problems with either and unless you're pushing the upper limits on the 10mm power scale, the cases should be strong enough to hold up fine. Ramped barrels add cost at both ends. The barrels are a bit more pricey, and machining the frame adds a few bucks to a build, which is always something to consider.

Hope that helped.

~Jim Keeney

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Again, I am not an expert, and have both ramped and non-ramped barrels in my 10mm's. Wil Schuemann highly recommended using ramped barrels for the 10mm. (although he'll try to talk you out of using a 10mm). For ramped barrels he also recommended the Clark-Para-Listner ramp over the Wilson-Novak.

Regards,

Here's an added question:

HOW ARE YOUR 10MM 1911's HOLDING UP FROM EXTENDED SHOOTING?

Hoser,

I can help with this one. I shoot mine often and with full-power ammo. They are all just as tight & smooth as when I first handled them, and they are showing more signs of finish wear from handling than any battering. One is a commander that gets shot quite a bit, and it is the funnest to shoot. I think two things are critical to getting a 10mm to last: proper spring weights/changes and lubrication. Keeping your springs fresh goes a long way toward keeping the guns running right, and lubrication keeps them tight and smooth. If you are having any questions as to whether or not to have one built, don't. They run, shoot great, and are just plain fun. Besides, even though some folks might think you're a sissy if you don't, shooting full-tilt ammo is not mandatory.

~Jim Keeney

Some pictures of my 10s...



Delta Elite


6" Caspian Longslide & Caspian Commander 10mm


Dan Wesson Razorback


Para Ordnance/Caspian 10mm


The Christmas Family Portrait that shows some of the changes I made to the longslides and Commander... changed to solid triggers, wood grip panels, and a flat MSH on the longslide. The Para/Caspian had yet to be born when this was taken.

I love 'em all.

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"I'd rather die on my feet than keep living on my knees." - Emiliano Zapata, Mexican Revolutionary

Jim, I really like the work you've had done on your Delta. Do you know whose trigger was used?

Hypersonic,

The long triggers on the Delta and my other full-size 1911s are Greider Solids. I changed them just because I like the way they look compared to a three-hole design. The short trigger on my commander 10mm is a King's, which if I had it to do over again, I would use a medium Greider. This may sound weird, but for carry guns I like a short to medium length trigger, and for guns that are primarily target/hunting guns I like a long one. Yes, I am weird like that. The Greider is the same as the old Videki and I believe the Casull.

~Jim Keeney

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"I'd rather die on my feet than keep living on my knees." - Emiliano Zapata, Mexican Revolutionary

I've had one of each. Either one works fine, really. If you like the nuclear loads, go with ramped, and specify you want all the case head support you can get so you don't get a really aggressively-throated barrel.

My current 10mm is a Schuemann AET-barreled gun done by Ted. Can't really say the extra cost is necessary, but it is neat and is accurate as hell.

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