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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:55 pm 
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Here are some pics of one of the guns I'll be bringing to the SHOT Show... stop by the LTW booth and take a look at it. Previously mentioned in a post titled "Old pin gun gets a rebuild, and one for the casino" (http://www.m-guns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4388).

One is old and one is new, both are Colts. The "casino gun" is a new stainless series 70. All aftermarket parts used are stainless, in fact everything about the thing is stainless except the grips (specials from VZ), springs, ignition parts (YoBo) and trigger. The sights-- stainless, made by me from 420 SS barstock. The BarSto barrel is stainless too, o'course. The finish-- tungsten Diamond Like Carbon..... very cool stuff.

The other gun is a late '70's Series 70 that got rusted and pitted, and then was reblued after some fairly vigorous buffing. A great candidate for a no-frills, high-mileage, hard-use gun, which is exactly what "M" wanted...... I did, um, go over budget a little, but dang it, once I get started, it's hard to say, OK, I got this area perfected, now I'm going to leave this other area as-was, adequate but not great. I have a real problem doing that sometimes :? . The rear sight started out as a YoBo Professional Grade, made specifically ( I believe) with one-handed manouvers in mind. As with the casino gun's owner, "M" wanted something as "rackable" and hard to miss as possible, so both guns have what I kinda informally call the "shield driver" mod, which is to give the front surface of the sight a deep, forward slanted, serrated surface, and a long, deep lead-in to it (by virtue of the flat on the slide behind the ejection port), making it easy to hook that sight on whatever's around for one-handed clearance / loading moves. I call it shield driver because is is of particular use to an entry team guy who is "driving" the ballistic shield. His primary arm is a handgun and he can't very well set the shield down to mess with it-- with a square-fronted rear sight, he can rack the slide on the back edge of the shield. My mod just makes it a little deeper and harder to miss. This gun will not be at SHOT as far as I know.

Anyway-- this second gun is Parkerized. The sights are Parko'd and then given a GunKote paint and bake, to get them nice and black.

Both guns, the sights have been prepped by me for the tritium inserts, so the inserts are set in to about .080 below flush.

More later..... now the pics.

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Left-- MSH with lanyard loop from Guncrafter Industries, and a magwell that's pretty big without going to toomuch trouble. Grips are Navidrex thin grips per customer's pref. Right-- more magwell area can be had by opening it up to the rear. MSH has a special shelf on it, frame gets modified a little, so that the funneling inthe rear does not cause and unsightly and reload-slowing knife-edge of steel at the rear wall of the mag chute. I used to weld this on to exising MSH's but now that Legacy (Stan Chen) is making them, well, they're the cat's butt for this mod. This magwell is also aided by the very bottom of the butt having been shortened by the thickness of a standard magazine floorplate-- leaving the grips hanging down just a bit-- and they are chamfered on the inside, thus becoming part of the magwell. The shortening of the butt by this .070 or so allows this, and it also facilitates the positive seating of a mag that does not have a big ol' extended floorplate on it.



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Who can tell me, what's the deal with the slide stop?
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YoBo light rail, screwed and silver soldered on. Dang hard to get a joint this big perfect....... I would have to show the spot with the little voids in the silver, wouldn't I? But-- it's on there for ever and ever. Just my obsessive compulsion not to trust screws on guns.


A hint on the above question is in this picture.
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Awesome Ned!

As for the slide stop...how about using it to take down the mag catch and tightening the grip screws?

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Very nice Ned! I'll have to agree with Will on the slide stop.


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I am going with tool for removing the thumb safety.

Luckily I only have about 60 months until my name comes up on the build list!!

Nice work as always Ned.

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Unfortunately I can't go to SHOT this year, so I don't even get to fondle it :(

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Good guess Will, but John got it. Now that I think about it I prob'ly coulda made it do all three......


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WOW!!! :D Ned... you work never fails to completely blow me away. 8)

(p.s. - Jaime says that the "casino" gun looks cool)

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Yeah, Ned shoulda read down a little further before pullin' the trigger (pun intended) on my guess! But that little extension knub sure fits the bill for the thumb safety!

BTW, did you refinish the "casino gun" in house or sub out?


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Yeah, Ned shoulda read down a little further before pullin' the trigger (pun intended) on my guess! But that little extension knub sure fits the bill for the thumb safety!

BTW, did you refinish the "casino gun" in house or sub out?


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Casino was done out, the Parkerizing on the other one was done here.

I really don't care for ambi safeties myself although this guy needed one for what the gun is intended for..... he specifically asked for one that is not retained by the grip panel. That pretty much mandates that the left side comes off first when disassebling. I have often enough put a little pry slot in the safety itself but this time I decided I'd put it in the frame so as not to weaken the safety. And one of the things I don't like about ambi's is the disassembly inconveneince, especially when you have it fitted for a no-slop-between-halves fit-- that just makes it harder to get apart without tools, so I figured I'd incorporate the tool into the gun. Prob'ly been done before.


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Nice work. I love "all business" blasters.


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Very nice. Those make up a gun show by themselves.


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That is the nicest "polished turd" I have ever seen. :wink:

Can't wait to shoot it. :D

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Matt, what do you know about the history of this one-- was it just something you picked up cheap, or do you know how it got rusty in the first place? A fire maybe? Not that there was anything about it that really said "fire" to me.


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Unbelievable work Ned...I can't wait to see the machine work on these. Love that flush sight install.

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Love those Michiguns! :D


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Ned,

I picked that pistol up because the price was right. But your fire hypothesis might be it's new history ;).

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You are the devil :twisted:

Now I really don't know what to send you....decisions, decisions..

All I know is that I am a lucky man!

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Mr. Christiansen those are just fantastic! You attention to detail is simply amazing.

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The race to SHOT!

Showing a few in-progress pics here, which I don't usually do, but it's crunch time and IF I get this done in time to have it in the LTW display, I almost certainly won't have time for some proper pics before I go. The owner may want to take it off my hands while down there, so here goes.

It's a 9mm Commander on a Caspian slide and Caspian Ti frame. Continuing the lightweight theme, I used an aluminum mainspring housing but the magwell wound up so nice and big, I noticed even in a little test firing the aluminum face of the MSH that constitutes part of the magwell was taking a beating. So-- it is now inserted with P20 steel.

Rear sight has the "shield driver" mod, which started out as a YoBo Pro-grade sight. Conamyds front and rear, BarSto barrel.

Now why would a guy want a Commander in 9mm? Well.... lots of reasons, one no doubt being that I believe this particular guy probably has at least two of every other possible variant of the 1911..... and scads of 9mm ammo.

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Ned, the insert for the mainspring housing pin? May I kiss your ring? That is a thing of beauty.


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Ned, beautiful pieces of artwork in steel there!! Would love to be the owner of one of those.


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Patrick, now you cut that out! Actually I'm just fixing my mistake.... of selecting an aluminum mainspring housing. No prob with them normally, but when they are subject to a beating by fast reloads and they've been cut back to within .040 of the MSH pin to max-out the magwell area, well, I should have stuck with steel on this one in spite of the light weight theme. The good news is that the balsa wood hammer seems to be holding up well.


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So when are the Shield Drivers going into production? I want some for my blasters! :D


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I don't think it's anything I would do production on, at least not for a while-- too many irons in the fire and a couple sights already out there already do the job well. Also, it's kind of a complete installation thing, with the lead-in ramp where I'm lowering the slide top from the ejection port back to the front of the rear sight, to get the "hook" deeper.


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I really dig how they are blended. Nice work on those two.


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Ned, I dont know how you remain so humble. Your attention to detail is second to none. --Matt


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OK now that is just tooo cool!
Ned, you never cease to amaze us!
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I am going with tool for removing the thumb safety.

Luckily I only have about 60 months until my name comes up on the build list!!

Nice work as always Ned.

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Wow! I'm really digging that "big mouth" magazine well on the new Colt! Beautiful!


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Some pics of the last one, finished:

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