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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:52 pm 
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I know what you’re all thinking... what is “neo-retro”? And truth be told I didn’t really know until it came time to build this gun.

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At first I thought it was just a snazzy catch phrase made up by the guns owner, who is also a friend and one of my shooting partners. But after hearing him say it a couple of times when describing what he wanted in the gun I realized he was serious... so okay, “neo-retro” it is. :?

So what’s it mean... the idea was for complete functional makeover while remaining a somewhat visually simple gun. Start with a new Series 70 Colt, throw away everything but the frame, slide, and a few small parts, and build a modern gun with a retro flair. Not a full fledge retro gun like we often do but rather a gun that made use of all the modern refinements and upgrades but in a minimalist venture. It wasn’t as easy as I thought... and this customer was kind of picky... with his last “major” decision it took him five months and as many trucks until he finally figured out which one was a keeper. But that’s another story... :lol:

The best example of the concept was an analogy he came up with... he likened the gun to the current Ford Mustang. Take a stylistically updated yet retro appearance and combine it with modern conveniences like air conditioning that works, and brakes that stop, a motor that sings, door and window seals that don’t leak, and an interior that is truly comfortable and useable, all while keeping that understated throw-back look. Now I was starting to get it...

The normal best grade work-up just wasn’t going to do. While the gun was to have all the standards such as a Kart barrel, weld-up frame and slide fit, Wilson extractor and ejector, EGW firing pin stop, tool steel ignition components, hand-cut 30lpi checkering, and complete line straightening, the controls were to be as minimalist as possible without impeding their function or usability. The grip safety was to be no larger than required to protect and cup the hammer and prevent the shooter from getting hammer bite. Likewise, the thumb safety was to retain the overall profile of a Colt Commercial part but with just the right amount of extra length and width to insure easy use. No flattened and serrated slide top or serrated rear of the slide on this gun but high visibility sights were still a must as was tritium and the ability to run the gun off the rear sight, all while still keeping the sight as small as possible. The Colt Commander style hammer, short trigger, and slightly extended serrated mag-catch help keep up the retro part of the theme while the slight round-butt, serrated slide stop, and blank spring plug keep the gun modern and functional. A bordered slide helps tie everything together and as a final meld of modern and retro the pistol was finished in Ionbond’s DLC, keeping the gun "blue" in appearance but with a bit easier maintenance schedule. Enjoy...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:58 am 
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Outstanding work as usual. As they say in the car world, that's the way it should have looked when it left the line...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:50 am 
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Jason,

Outstanding.. You have a Commander at the shop that needs the same treatment..

Best..

Walt...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:48 am 
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Jason,
You and your buddy have come up with a perfect combination of functionality. That rear modified sight is great, as well as trimmed back grip safety and thumb safety. I like it alot!
I hear a Commander begging for those mods.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:02 am 
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That may be the ideal blend of classic beauty and modern functional adaptation. Beautiful work.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:35 am 
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Jason,

Very nice work! It looks like you might be getting the hang of this gun whittlin' stuff.... :D So, tell us about that watch in the first pic.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:14 am 
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Very nice Jason. I bet the phone is already ringing off the hook for more.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:28 am 
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Excellent! You and your friend have created a new "niche" :D .

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:17 am 
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Is that hand checkering on the front strap?

Very nice indeed!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:09 am 
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It's almost getting boring to say: Beautiful! :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:57 pm 
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Thats what Colt should be making as a modern 1911. Great job.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:25 pm 
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Very well done :mrgreen: . Is HP going to start offering that as a package? I think I want one.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:01 pm 
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Maybe you should call it all bidness-retro. You gotta love a rear sight that will let you rack the slide with your side of your pants, or elbow or whatever--very functional. The Commander style hammer, shortened grip safety and stubby thumb safety do take ya back, but dang--"If it ain't broke..." :)

The finish is superb too!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:43 pm 
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Thanks for the comments guys... this was a really fun gun to build... and being that it belongs to a friend I’ll still get to flog it every once and again. 8)

This was the first gun I have finished in DLC and thus far it’s proving well worth it and showing exceptional abrasion and corrosion resistance.
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Outstanding.. You have a Commander at the shop that needs the same treatment…
Walt - Sounds great! I’d love to do another like this... I’ll be in touch.

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Very nice work! It looks like you might be getting the hang of this gun whittlin' stuff.... :D So, tell us about that watch in the first pic.
Thanks pally... I certainly owe a good deal to ‘ol Theo and his, ummm, innovative learning techniques. :? As for the watch… it’s a Sinn 857UTC, it’s far too manly of a watch for little ‘ol me but it does look good in pictures. :lol:

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Is that hand checkering on the front strap?
Yup... hand-cut... thanks for the kind words.

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Very well done :mrgreen: . Is HP going to start offering that as a package? I think I want one.
Maybe not your typical pre-set package but we’re certainly not opposed to doing another one like this.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:11 pm 
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Just for the record as Burton did not mention it in the write up: that thumb safety is a one off fabricated part. I wanted the look of the classic Colt commercial safety but just a bit more functional in that it was just a tad bit wider, and a VERY LITTLE bit longer. The only part that could be used as a base part was the Kings but there were issues that prevented its use. SO, ol Jason had to fabricate what ended up be a part that mimicked the Colt commercial part with the slightly extended dimensions. Not sure exactly what happened, but I know it involved silver solder, welding, and shaping along with some cussing. He grumbled that I now have the world's most expensive thumb safety. I thought it was worth it in order to keep with that "neo retro" theme which basically was a retro gun that you could shoot for a 1000 round a day class.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:54 pm 
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Just for the record as Burton did not mention it in the write up: that thumb safety is a one off fabricated part. I wanted the look of the classic Colt commercial safety but just a bit more functional in that it was just a tad bit wider, and a VERY LITTLE bit longer. The only part that could be used as a base part was the Kings but there were issues that prevented its use. SO, ol Jason had to fabricate what ended up be a part that mimicked the Colt commercial part with the slightly extended dimensions. Not sure exactly what happened, but I know it involved silver solder, welding, and shaping along with some cussing. He grumbled that I now have the world's most expensive thumb safety. I thought it was worth it in order to keep with that "neo retro" theme which basically was a retro gun that you could shoot for a 1000 round a day class.
Sir-

You and Jason hit the nail on the head with this build... perfect! I also love the thumb safety.

Enjoy! :D


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Thanks pally... I certainly owe a good deal to ‘ol Theo and his, ummm, innovative learning techniques.
And just think...you'll have all those scars to remind you of all you've learned! :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:22 am 
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Looks clean and nice.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:21 pm 
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Jason,

What a great looking pistol. "Neo-Retro" really fits. You just keep getting better and better. Look forward to visiting with you and Theo at SHOT next year alone with the rest of the LTW gang.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:22 pm 
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Someone has a nice Sinn. Is that your watch in the picture, Jason? I thought the crew were all Rolex Sub guys.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:35 am 
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Jason

Thats a super clean build, with the 'Classic Government' look retained. Im becoming a big fan of your
'abbreviated' grip safety treatment (but w/out the pad), you guys should really market that piece! Im
another guy who dont use extended safety's.

IonBond has a real soft color while being a super tough finish...this build has it all...wow!!

Great job Jason!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:07 pm 
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I like this a lot.
Would like it in Commander size even more.
And 10mm :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:52 pm 
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Very nice, especially like the grip and thumb safety treatments. Good blend of design/execution.

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