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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:31 pm 
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I will never tire of seeing Chuck's outside the box innovations and superb craftsmanship and machine work. What an outstanding piece created for a specific purpose. 8)

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Man, that is one mean lookin' pistola. I want one. Reminds me of the time years back when I was in Arizona, attending Gunsite, and I walked into a gunshop in Prescott Valley. There was an impressive looking Commander in the display. I asked to look at it and was told it was built by a local guy name of Rogers. Good price too.............been kicking myself ever since for not picking it up! I even called about it after I returned home but it was long gone.

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Here are a couple of the ejector from different angles. Several questioned if the forward sand cut compromised the strength. The cut is .017" deep, and has a full radiused bottom, as do all of the cuts. The thinnest section is .063" on the upper portion, but this section is supported by the sections underneath and to the right of it. This ejector was carved by me from a billet of 4130 chrome-moly heat-treated 28-32Rc. It's plenty strong.

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A few asked for pics without the light. As you can see the Dawson rail is of minimum size. Concealed carry is not compromised as with the larger, integral rails.

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The mag well is beveled at 15 degrees and cut into the mainspring housing to provide the largest and smoothest opening possible. The mainspring housing is modified to create a near seamless 'butt joint' with the frame web. No feather edge to be damaged as is often seen.

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Many manufacturers of equipment have finally settled on this shade of Coyote Tan as a standard. Pictured are a Vltor stock and a TangoDown vertical foregrip for the AR15.

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I fabricate my front sights from MGW blanks. Once proper height is established the sight is drilled, refinished and then sent to Trijicon for installation of the tritium lamp.

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Gratuitous shot of the Tier One rear sight.

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The trigger is a modified Greider medium length. It has been modified to reduce weight and improve function in the sand.

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The barrel is a Kart, of course!

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Chuck, your camera work is gettin' pretty dang good too! Thanks for the add'l pics of a great 1911.


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I agree with Ned....outstanding pic's!


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:D ?$?$?$?$?$? :lol:


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Chuck, can you please describe the modification of the four holes around the disconnector and their use. Perhaps it's an optical illusion, but even the barrel throat looks uniquely done. The more I look over the pictures of this gun, the more I find intriguing and unique modifications that are just amazing. Thanks

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John, those appear to be stakings to control disconnector movement. If the disconnector hole is too large, play in the disconnector can do ugly things to the trigger pull.

That gun is almost too pretty to subject it to my sand 'n dirt tests, but I'd be willing to muss it up in the name of scientific inquiry. I'd be very interested to see just how much stuff builds up in the sand cuts. The guns I tested had very little buildup between frame and slide.


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Yuppers.
The 4 stake marks are indeed to close up the disconnector hole and eliminate disconnector click and creep.
I've seen it done with just one stake at 12 or 6 o'clock. Using 4 at 10,2,4 and 8 o'clock lets me entirely eliminate movement yet lets the disco pivot freely. I'll overpeen to the point of freezing the disco, then swage the hole using gage pins until the disco is free. This provides a longer lasting, more durable fix.
Patrick,
As for me sending you the gun for destructive testing........well I would not suggest waiting at the door for the FedEx truck. :lol:

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The four little punch marks are an old trick. Nice to see it on a Chuck Gun. Great pictures!

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I doubt he was first. The gunsmith who taught me, Dan McDonald, showed me a pre-war 1911 that had had the trick done to it. Dan even toyed with the idea of drilling out the hole and fitting a threaded bushing to close up the gap. But the staking worked so well, and was so easy, he dropped the idea.

What, no FedEx there? I'm sure a UPS truck can find the path 'tween our locations. 8)


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Mr. Rogers,

Do you ever get the hankerin' to put the tactical grip on the light rail? :lol:

I seen the pictures of it posted and for one reason or another, that was the first thought that popped in my head (after seeing the initial pictures in the post of course).

Just for grins,
Bob

Beautiful pistol and very innovative, by the way.


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It may be tempting, but don't give in to temptation. Apparently, putting a forward pistol grip on a handgun turns it into an NFA weapon, category known as "Any Other Weapon."

If you want an AOW, you can get one for filling out the form and (as I recall) a $5 transfer tax. But without the form and tax stamp, combining the two is a gray-bar hotel event.

I'm not saying it is rational, just that its the law.

So, any chance this particular blaster will be seeing overseas sand?


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There was absolutely no seriousness to that last post of mine about the forward pistol grip. It was just a joke, but thank you for the information. I didn't know fully about the AOW and rules such as that and will be doing more research on the subject.

I do have a couple serious questions for Mr. Rodgers on this pistol. Have you done these sand pocket cuts before or is this an industry first? Have you actually done any extreme contition testing to make sure the pockets do their job in a reliable fashion? I'm not doubting they do, but as many people know, what looks really cool might not work the way it was intended.

Thanks for sharing,
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Robert (Bob) Miller,

Sorry. I do not have any definitive or empirical test results to share.

Robert (Bob) Rodgers can be reached via his website:

http://www.rodgerspistolsmithing.com

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Thank you.

I hope I didn't offend or provoke any doubt by asking. I don't want to be the "devil's advocate" or be a burden in any way. I was just curious if the design was tested and how well it worked through the testing.

I'd just love to hear that you could put it through the "tourture test" that those glock lovers boast about and put down the custom 1911's "lack of reliability in dirt blah blah blah...)

I am curious if we are going to get a glimpse of a duty weapon's standard operational cuts here. Who knows, maybe we will see this on other guns besides the 1911 for operational purposes.

Can you imagine it, a tighter, smoother, more accurate polymer framed pistol brough to you from the innovative mind of Mr. Rogers? :shock:

Take care and my apologies once again if that last one rubbed anyone wrong.

Bob


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Bob, I can't speak for all, but I haven't been rubbed the wrong way.

As for the efficacy of sand cuts, unfortunately that is beyond the purview of individual gunsmiths. To do the job right would take a dozen guns of each (sand-cut and non-sand-cut) thousands of rounds per gun, and a year or two of hard use. And even then testing might not show much of a difference. After all, how much testing of a tool that is (just to pick a number) 99.90% effective would be needed to show that some alteration improves it to 99.95%?

Looks good though, and they show an attention to detail and craftsmanship we should all aspire to.

I repeat, UPS knows the way here. Just in case anyone is listening. 8)


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Chuck.... you are truly a pistolsmith craftsman of the highest order. Magnificent work.... pretty much as usual for you!


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My lady "Eleanor" -Colt 1991 A1- has been touched by Chuck's greatness. She talks to me every day she rides on my hip about how she loved going to Chucks shop. Once again Chuck I'm found banging my head on my keyboard trying to talk the wife into another masterpiece! Good show! :shock:

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Wow, that gun is beautiful!


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Can anyone tell me what model of Mainspring housing this is? Or is it custom?
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Chuck...I cant help but hear the words "....to boldly go where no man has gone before.." echoing around in my head when I look at this pistol. Original and stunning. :wink:

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Chuck TIG'd up an extension to the heel of it and then blended it in when he radiused the mag opening (after milling the frame of course).

I keep looking at this pistol and finding new things. That's one of the things I love about Chuck's work, every time you look at it something else jumps out. Whether or not the sandcuts are effective is kind of a non-issue to me; the fact that I've never seen this on a 1911 makes it unique. I've got several FAL's and most (except the original Belgian one) have sandcuts and for obvious reasons (particularly on two of my Izzy's); but on a 1911, just too cool...
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Beautiful! Well conceived and executed - looks like it will really stand up to the environment. I wish I could send one like that to my son in the Sandbox (he's not a big M9 fan).


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Absolutely Beautiful Chuck. Everytime I hold it I love it even more. Rumor has it that, it can also be seen here:

http://www.alaskagun.com/gallery.php




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Hmmmmmmmm.........
the 'sandbox' gun in Alaska!
Got a lot of kitty cats up there?
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None at my house but it is hunting season--and my wife is allergic to them :twisted:


I just need to wait until Alex gets my Dawson Rail holster done and I'll be golden! :D


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Wow, that is incredible. Very Nice


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Well done. Thanks for taking the time to post.

Are the sights available for direct purchase?

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